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It never has.

telling people that theyre venting and dealing with their problems in the wrong way wont stop any of these and why is cis in all caps

i didn’t notice the cis thing lol but telling someone they’re wrong doesn’t seem to be a thing anyone on this site is afraid of doing and i know people do learn from it fuck i came on this site because porn and now i can barely stomach it because of all the feminism i’ve learned by accident so maybe me reblogging this will help spread its meaning  and reiterate what should be common sense and maybe stop the cycle of hate before this entire website ends up in a trash overrun by social justice warriors or whatever the term is and everyone with any guile left fleeing to a different site.

this type of thinking, “i hate u cuz u hate me” is toxic and counterproductive and spiteful and useless. stop. please.

That kind of erases the fact that all the people called out in the images above have the right to be upset because they are CONSTANTLY shamed, negated, abused, marginalized, bad-mouthed, insulted and otherwise made to feel bad simply for being themselves.

The whole “hate won’t make it better” thing is yet another way of telling those ostracized groups to shut up. To make way for the cishet, white, skinny, able and very likely more affluent who have had the lifelong privilege of being able to silence and ignore those who are not them.

There’s enough of that nonsense all over this world. How about you spend some time to listen, learn, and become a better person from it?

BTW posting or reblogging shit like this is also “spreading the hate”. But, because it is hating the people who aren’t ‘acceptable’ (cishet white able) that makes it okay?

I can see why you lost followers, now. You flat-out told them that you hate them. You also flat-out told me that you hate me. I’m one of the people you just told to shut up, go away, and stop bothering you in your little privileged paradise. And if that factlet hurts… Maybe you should learn why.

I didn’t say I hated anyone tho? I think its childish behavior on all sides.
I’m fat pan female and part native american and i am engaged to a trans bi autistic part native american.
That doesn’t make it ok for me to hate all skinny male white people.
Should I make a blog devoted to hating people who aren’t me to fit in on this site.
That is stupid
The logic is flawed
Make peace not war is all I’m saying.

(Nice casual ablism you have there)

Sweetie, what you just said makes it *worse*. You’ve internalised that happy pink bullshit above [Which, by the way, is usually spread around by the privileged WASPs who don’t understand why people are expressing themselves against them]. And ignored the core of my message, so I’ll say it plain:

People have the right to feel hurt. People have the right to vent about that. People have the right to point to the people who hurt them and say, “they did this to me”.

SOME people have less of a right to complain because, for a significant portion of history, their kind were the ones who did the hurting.

If some cisshit or set of cisshits up and decided to follow you around all day, talking to you and your beloved in a way that included a slur at least once every five words… You would be completely *justified* in making a post about it to vent about said cisshits.

Now if one of your followers reblogged that with a diatribe about how you’re hating all cisshits and “we’re not all like that”? THAT’S what that pink vomit above is all about.

Fuck, you’re even telling *yourself* to shut up, go away, be nice to the people who hurt you and leave the privileged the privilege of never checking what they have.

“Hate” may not end up stopping hate. What does slow it down significantly is trying to point it out whenever it occurs.

We’re not beyond redemption. I believe that. I’ve been in the happy pink bubble and I’m still learning how to speak up for those who, thanks to those messages above, have learned not to speak for themselves.

Silencing anyone who has been hurt is wrong.

I will continue to stand up on that measure.

What the fuck ever
Let me know when its ok to think my own thoughts ok
Ok

It’s always okay to think your own thoughts. Shit, it’s okay to say whatever the fuck you want on your blog.

The fact that you’re so dismissive about stopping hatred… bothers me.

You wouldn’t have reblogged it twice and said those things if it didn’t matter.

And I get that you’re mad at me for saying the things I’ve said. That’s fine. Maybe I’ve hurt you (and I’m sorry I did), maybe I made you re-evaluate your philosophies (been there, doing that on a daily basis), maybe I’m being blocked right now (again, your right to do so).

You always have the right to say what you want to say. What you feel needs to be said.

And everyone should have that right. Even if it is the most fucked-up shit someone else has ever come across.

We should ALL have the right to free speech.

Just like we have the RESPONSIBILITY to listen when someone calls that shit out for being problematic. Or morally wrong. Or just plain painful for someone else on the wrong side of that speech to read.

Speaking up is part of how others learn how to understand.

You have the right to speak. I have the right to speak.

We also need to listen when someone is talking. Especially when they’re talking about being hurt. Because that’s when we learn to understand.

Can we try understanding people, please?